On and on the encomiums flow. But if you had to look at everything, I think I was the best.. Early in his career, Stieb would also frequently yell at his teammates after errors, for plays that he thought they should have made. He won the 1985 AL ERA title and finished in the top 10 of AL Cy Young Award voting four times. We decided to draft him. They also discussed Stieb's current business endeavor as a contractor in Reno, Nev. Stieb talked about. Kyle and Chris were not only the hardest workers we have seen, but were also courteous, on-time every day, and took great pride in their workmanship. Stieb played for the Blue Jays from 1979-92. Thank you", "Good work - Fairly Priced! Much of the play-by-play, game results, and transaction information both shown and used to create certain data sets was obtained free of charge from and is copyrighted by RetroSheet. He'd already done and seen so much. It's a funny thing, but most converted infielders and outfielders have good control, especially infielders. Leslee Bender's House. ", Stieb has had protracted and bitter contract disputes with the Blue Jays, invariably involving demands to be traded, but all was resolved this February when LaMonte, who still works as a teacher, and Blue Jay vice-presidents Pat Gillick and Paul Beeston agreed to a six-year deal that could pay Stieb, with incentive clauses, as much as $1 million a year. We didn't monkey around with his mechanics at all. The guys also very pleasant and answered all my questions. And I wasn't accustomed to playing for a last-place team. He worked without taking breaks-except for lunch. A few fans might be saying the same thing, just as they did in Vancouver. Dave Steib remains the Toronto Blue Jays all-time leader in many pitching categories The Toronto Blue Jays selected Dave Stieb in the 5th round of the MLB draft in 1978. Fans lining up for autographs in Vancouver found a more mellow Stieb than the version they once saw on the mound. Later on in his career he developed his breaking ball repertoire, and he became very effective with a "dead fish" curveball[17] that would break into the dirt as the batter swung. To both he responded, "No way." My house looks like a new house", "Did an awesome job on some very old ugly doors. 14,202nd in major league history) He ended up winning 158 games in the 1980s, which was. When Mattick and LaMacchia caught Stieb's act he was a .394 hitter for the Salukis en route to a berth on The Sporting News's All-America team. We provide clients a very diverse portfolio of offerings, enhanced areas of expertise and an expansive geographic footprint. During his career, Stieb won 176 games while losing 137. He's got no chance.". ", Stieb is an extraordinarily handsome man, tall and well built (6 feet and 190 pounds) with hazel eyes and a trim brown mustache, the baseball equivalent of Tom Selleck. Data Provided By I said a lot of things I shouldn't have. Become a Stathead & surf this site ad-free. Dave Stieb weighed 185 lbs (83 kg) when playing. "No way he should be thanking me. So I never got really, really good, but I can play some stuff and do the rhythm and stuff like that. All Rights Reserved. Assorted amps and a drum set fill his basement studio. Stieb hit only .192 in 35 games for Dunedin that rookie summer, but he was 2-0 with a 2.08 ERA in 26 innings. David Andrew Stieb was born on July 22, 1957, in Santa Ana, California. [7] After an excellent 1990 season, a series of shoulder and back injuries early in the 1991 season ended his effective pitching years, culminating in a 46 season in 1992 that resulted in his release after the season ended. Still Stieb had every reason to feel apprehensive, even peeved. . "He's always had good stuff. A Patent Pending People Search Process. Stieb won 17 games last year for the Blue Jays, although they did no better than tie for last place in the American League East. Thanks for doing a great job. Photos by John Lott. As a result, he was the leader in hit batsmen in the American League in 1981, 1983, 1984, 1986, and 1989, and he was in the top three in 1985, 1988, and 1990. Copyright 2023 Sporting News Holdings Limited. The fact is, he has found the one missing ingredient in his still new makeup as a pitcher: peace of mind. Use without license or authorization is expressly prohibited. Stieb started it with Dunedin in the Class A Florida State League. us. News. Gives precise instruction and keeps the workflow moving well. Dave Stieb was drafted by the Toronto Blue Jays in the 5th round of the 1978 MLB June Amateur Draft from Southern Illinois University Carbondale (Carbondale, IL). Addressed my concerns in a prompt manner", "Jesse did a great job! Stieb told Butera he was crazy. 293 Dave Stieb Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images All Entertainment News Archival Browse 293 dave stieb stock photos and images available, or start a new search to explore more stock photos and images. "He was angry," Sportsnet's Stephen Brunt wrote last year, recalling his days covering Stieb in the 1980s. Do Pattie and Dave want Andrew to be a fireman or follow in his father's footsteps as a starter? He is eager to expound. vs. DET 0.1 IP, 2 H, 0 SO, 0 BB, 1 ER, Rookie Status: Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. 555 N. Central Ave. #416 But by traditional measures, the former Toronto Blue Jays ace might have looked far short of a plaque, with sciatica and other ailments chasing Stieb away from the game in his mid-30s and limiting him to 176 wins. And he had great velocity. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Dave Stieb is a building contractor and plays electric guitar. Both Lemon, a Hall of Famer who won 207 games for Cleveland in his 13 seasons, and Walters, who won 198 games for Philadelphia and Cincinnati in 16 pitching seasons, had been big league third basemen whose throws had such a bewilderingly natural break that protests from their first basemen may have hastened their conversion. Both Kyle & Travis worked quickly the second day", "Jay youre wise & lucky to have a crew like Danny, Travis & Corey", "Employees are always on time, courteous and do a wonderful job. We are very please and will definitely call Mastercraft if we have needs in the future", "Very easy to work with. That was something else new I had to deal with. Especially when the Jays put him on a bobblehead with Pat Hentgen, a longtime friend, and Roy Halladay, a future Hall of Famer. He is bright and well spoken, if somewhat reticent. Subscribe to Stathead Baseball: Get your first month FREEYour All-Access Ticket to the Baseball Reference Database. I just didn't even care about baseball while I was on the mend.". We have always been pleased with every job and will continue to use your services for any painting needs inside & out", "You exceeded our expectations!! "I'm all right," he says. Exceeded rookie limits during 1979 season, Agents: Bob LaMonte Previously: Steve Comte, View Player Bio Building under construction. "I said right off the bat, 'I don't belong in the Hall of Fame, I did not win enough games and so forth, Stieb told Sporting News in a recent phone interview from Reno, Nev., where hedoes land development work. Stieb lacked his old velocity, but his sinker was sinking and his slider was breaking. Copyright 2000-2023 Sports Reference LLC. "He was absolutely overpowering. . After 1990, Stieb struggled with injuries. ", An astute decision it was. Dave Stieb was born on the 22nd of July, 1957. Stucco, skylights, kitchen islands, walk-in closets. [6] On August 4, 1989, he had a perfect game broken up with two outs in the ninth. But many who stand in line for an hour inside the stadium remember. "It was fun to start all over again and make it the same exact way I did 19 years earlier," he said. [1] A seven-time All-Star, he also won The Sporting News' Pitcher of the Year Award in 1982. We all can learn a lot from Dave Stieb about patience, fulfillment, and passion. I had butted heads with him before about alienating his teammates, so we had a conversation the next morning about it. It's all in what they call the rhythm. I'm 40 years old, he said. Stieb made the diplomatic mission, thanking the Jays for the "generous contract" and promising to stay with Toronto long enough to make the community proud of its team. You do a great job. It was cold and wet, not a pitcher's night, and because of the shoddy support he'd received, Stieb had already thrown more pitchesnearly 140than he normally does in a complete game. He continues to be in . Two hours before his autograph session in Vancouver, I interview Stieb as we stand in the half-light of the stadium's lower concourse. A mishandled ground ball led to a fifth Yankee run in the sixth. For more information governing use of our site, please review our Terms of Service. Dave Siebels With: Gordon Goodwin's Big Phat Band I try my damndest now not to let any runs score as the result of an error. Dave Stieb spent parts of 16 seasons in the majors from 1979 through 1998 with 15 of those seasons coming with the Toronto Blue Jays. Stieb began as a two-pitch thrower; he has become a four-pitch pitcher who has mastered the changeup and the curve. If you got a hit off a good pitch, he'd look at you as if to say, 'How did you hit that pitch?' The 65-year-old baseball player was born in California, United States. "It was hard for me to fathom why they wanted me to be something I wasn't," Stieb says. Stieb is relaxed and voluble. I realize now I could've had my butt kicked for the stuff I used to do. The Vancouver Canadians game is sold out, but he desperately covets an autograph from the evening's special guest. Dave Stieb's struggle is universal, gut wrenching, and inspiring. "Like Lemon," says Widmar, "Dave knows how tough it is to hit. ", "I tell everyone how pleased I am with the job and how wonderful you all are!! "I like rock and roll and heavy metal. Stieb's parentsPete, a San Jose general contractor, and Pat, a delivery-woman for the San Jose Mercuryhadn't allowed either Dave or his older brother, Steve, a former minor league catcher, to pitch in youth baseball. He posted a 1-3 record and 4.83 ERA in 19 games, including three starts. Previous. Born: In the next one he'll be a . I said, 'What are you shaking your head yes for? The first is that the Modern Baseball Committee ballot, which spans MLB figures who made their greatest contribution to the game between 1970 and 1987, looks like it will be packed. "It was a storybook game," he said. I love how the exterior of the house and cabinets turned out", "We will never call anyone in the future but Mastercraft!" I'm done. My home looks beautiful! He has just enough of it left to present one more altar to the gods and say goodbye.". [2] Stieb holds career records for Toronto pitchers in wins, games started, shutouts, strikeouts, complete games and a variety of other categories. Dave Stieb on Hall of Fame: 'I surely did not deserve to be just wiped off the map', Lou Whitaker on Cooperstown snub: 'I didn't even get daylight', Meet the top seven candidates for the 2018 Hall of Fame class. When he took the ball for his first major league start, Stieb had pitched, counting college baseball, a grand total of 216 innings in his lifetime. That would look really bad," he says. Always a pleasure to speak with Lisa-very friendly! Stieb looked at some of Saberhagens other accomplishments. Dave Stieb played for 2 teams; the Toronto Blue Jays and Chicago White Sox. Logos were compiled by the amazing SportsLogos.net. This led to other issues, which ultimately culminated with Stiebs release from the Blue Jays after the 1992 season. Dave Stieb is seen by many as the best pitcher in baseball throughout much of the 1980's. Jays fans certainly know Stieb as the first real star and the cornerstone of a new franchise around whom the 1992 World Championship team was built. Stieb won 140 games in the 1980s, the second-highest total by a pitcher in that decade, behind only his rival (and later teammate) Jack Morris. Most are close to Stieb's agehe turned 59 on July 22, the day after his Vancouver visitand some are considerably older. MLB.TV Buy MLB.TV Buy At Bat MLB . On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Before that, he was one of MLB's best pitchers, and made a triumphant return to the mound in 1998 after a five-year hiatus. Asked to assess the Hall of Fame chances of good friend and fellow 80s aceBret Saberhagen, Stieb pulled up Baseball-Reference.com. ", "Jesse & CJ went above and beyond expectations. Bois and Rubenstein are the greatest documentary makers, ever. They were prepared to write the prospect off whenwhat's going on here?he came in to pitch. The SPORTS REFERENCE and STATHEAD trademarks are owned exclusively by Sports Reference LLC. This is the almost unbelievable story of the man who put the Toronto Blue Jays on the map. It is three hours before game time at Nat Bailey Stadium in Vancouver. An emotional journey through charts, graphs and near no-hitters tracking the unfortunate plight of one mans very bizarre career. They did a commendable job of surface preparation, applying primer, sealer and paint. [12] Stieb's number 37 was engraved on the pitcher's mound for the game and 10,000 bobbleheads of Stieb were handed out to fans upon entrance.[13][14]. TORONTO, ON - CIRCA 1991: Dave Stieb #37 of the Toronto Blue Jays pitches during an Major League Baseball game circa 1991 at Exhibition Stadium in Toronto, Ontario. Dave Stieb had 1,669 strikeouts over his career. Letterboxd is an independent service created by a small team, and we rely mostly on the support of our members to maintain our site and apps. Photo by John Lott. That gives him a psychological edge." Pete and Pat didn't picture Dave as a pitcher. HE HAD NOT. "He has a tremendously competitive attitude. SPORTS ILLUSTRATED is a registered trademark of ABG-SI LLC. He smiled. I can end it on my own terms. Welcome to Captain Ahab: The Story of Dave Stieb, part two of a four-part series.Written and directed by Jon BoisWritten and produced by Alex RubensteinSubscribe: http://goo.gl/Nbabae Enter the Secret Base: http://www.sbnation.com/secret-base Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/secretbase Follow us on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/secretbasesbn Follow us on Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@secretbasesbnCheck out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/9pMHRV Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/NvpZFF Explore SB Nation: http://www.sbnation.com So it was exciting again, and it was cool to do that at 40 years old. Another Toronto scout, Don Welke, had said the boy could run, throw and hit with some power. Stieb is the subject of the 2022 four-part miniseries Captain Ahab: The Story of Dave Stieb, by Secret Base's Jon Bois and Alex Rubenstein; in addition to discussing his career, it advocates for his induction into the National Baseball Hall of Fame based on his accomplishments.[21]. Kyle is an excellent foreman. Threw a few pinecones around and hollered at my neighbor to ask if any of them looked like they were going 90 miles an hour. Stiebs WAR7 (or WAR in his best seven seasons) was 44.5, which is tied for 66th all-time among starters. He currently resides in California, United States. "I was not going to have all the media, who already heard this was happening, a day later go, 'Oh, he's not doing it.' The next year, when he finished at 12-15, he played in the All Star Game. When you look at his peak seasons, Stiebs case gets much stronger. ", Stieb pitched only 17 innings for the Salukis that season, but providentially Mattick saw two of them, and there followed his recommendation that the Blue Jays draft Stieb as a pitcher. Dave Stieb, Kevin Boland 3.21 24 ratings4 reviews This autobiography of one of baseball's most outstanding and controversial personalities features uncensored views on salaries, agents, pitching, life on the road, and the pressures of winning and losing. All I had to worry about was myself. I'd release all that tension and stress verbally. [8] He was awarded a World Series ring after the Blue Jays won their first championship later that year, despite not pitching in the postseason due to injuries. We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us. the official stats partner of the NBA, NHL and MLB. For reasons that seemed irrational, he was sometimes as fierce off the field as on the mound, still fighting when the real fight was over. Another byproduct of that experience is his approach to the hitters. [4] Previously, on September 24 and 30, 1988, Stieb had no-hitters broken up with two outs and two strikes in the top of the ninth inning in two consecutive starts. Quality, craftsmanship and professionalism", "Trustworthy; quality work; very pleased with finished product! Search Details, Dave Stieb's Phone #, Address & More He also came to bat that year in the All Star Game when American League Manager Jim Frey ran out of pinch hitters. A few have brought their grandkids. Stieb appeared in seven All-Star games, also a Blue Jays team record. He was a pitcher now, for certain. He goes, 'They use that like crazy now to gauge how good someone really is. He goes, If they looked at that when you were playing, you would have won four Cy Young Awards in a row, Stieb said, noting it would have been 1982 through 1985 when he led for WAR three consecutive years and finished second the fourth. Directed by Jon Bois. "I've never had a dj vu experience like that in my lifeso many things that were the same. Mobilesite. Stieb wound up at 176-137 with a 3.44 ERA for his career, respectable numbers no doubt in his eyes but not Hall of Fame worthy. "He was shaking his head yes before I said a word. It wasn't vintage Dave Stieb stuff.". For nearly two hours, Stieb signed autographs and posed for photos in Vancouver. As we'll demonstrate shortly, by a variety of metrics Dave Stieb was the best pitcher in baseball for at least a four-year period, from 1982-85. View David Stieb results including current phone number, address, relatives, background check report, and property record with Whitepages. A rapt audience of players and coaches gathered. But they had at least done some pitching along the way. 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He'd been pressed into duty earlier in the college season as an emergency pitcher by Southern Illinois Coach Richard (Itchy) Jones. . "He thanked me for my apology," says Stieb. "Maybe," says Oldham, "the outfield saved his arm. [3] In later years, Stieb mellowed somewhat, although a fierce glare after a botched play was still not uncommon. "Trustworthy, tidy & clean, professional, attentive to customers concerns and questions. He is tied with Mike Mussina who, like Stieb, spent his entire career (with the exception of four starts for Stieb) in the American League East. Stieb's parentsPete, a San Jose general contractor, and Pat, a delivery-woman for the San Jose Mercuryhadn't allowed either Dave or his older brother, Steve, a former minor league catcher, to pitch in youth baseball. Who will be the first unanimous baseball Hall of Famer. Morris had the most wins, but Stieb had the lower ERA and he wasn't even close to me, I think. Dave Stieb is a building contractor and plays electric guitar. And that, to the amazement of even the most optimistic of his boosters in the Blue Jay organization, was also the year he made the big leagues. Dave Stieb wrote an autobiography in his late twenties, which is unheard of, but its tough to blame him. After 20 minutes, professional courtesy dictates that I end the session, or so I presume. The Book: Playing the Percentages in Baseball, Did not play in major or minor leagues (Did Not Play), Salaries may not be complete (especially pre-1985) and may not include some earned bonuses, Note, this is done in an automated way, so we apologize for any errors, & please. Keep up the excellent work! He glowered and muttered on the mound. Draft: Drafted by the Toronto Blue Jays in the 5th round of the 1978 MLB June Amateur Draft from Southern Illinois University Carbondale (Carbondale, IL). So instead, we talk about his successful, short-lived comeback with the Jays at age 40, and his new career as a building contractor, and his continuing passion for playing heavy-metal guitar. You even used the high-quality paint I wanted :o) You are well-worth the money in every way", "On time, very professional, everyone comments on how perfect and detailed the job is and how quickly it was completed. It was, Mattick concludes in retrospect, one of the smartest things he has ever done, no small claim for a man who signed the likes of Frank Robinson and Vada Pinson. But, says Jones, "the scouts couldn't know when he was going to pitch because we never did." "I'm not going to say I was great. Dave Stieb's struggle is universal, gut wrenching, and inspiring. Baseball was one part and this is my new part. Stieb had been asked to try pitching by his Oak Grove High coach, John Bessa, and, at the behest of a pro scout, by his San Jose City College coach, John Oldham. What is Stiebs standard for Cooperstown? Mastercraft is very professional & considerate through the entire process", "Mastercraft Paintingwhat a professional company! ", "Dave is the most intense person I've ever met," says his agent. The best price & superior service & quality", "Your crew did a very professional job. He keeps the ball down. Search instead in Creative?